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“Rumblings of Dictator” by Wild Bill

Posted by on January 11, 2013 at 10:45 pm

Wild Bill, as usual, does a great job explaining what I am seeing and feeling.

 
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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1533046626 Robert Dungan

    Thanks Bill.

  • A True American

    Lots of lies in what he says. Not the least of which is the majority of Americans believe in, want, and support a national healthcare program. It is not a privilege to have health care, it is a right.

    • iprazhm

      Healthcare is not a civil right. You can call it that all day long but it is not. If you recieve a free bandaide you have received charity. But when the gov forces taxpayers to pay for your healthcare, that is tyranny.

      What liberals refuse to acknowledge is that the ‘gov’ has no money. The money they are using to provide healthcare is money extracted by threat of legal action, from taxpayers.

      It is the epitiome of greed, narcassism and selfishness to say that it is your ‘right’ to have gov goons(IRS) take income from hardworking families and their children and give it to you or yours for medical supplies/proceedures.

      This is income redistribution, no more, no less.

      You may believe it is in the ‘world’s’ best interest if your child received braces, or paid access to an abortion, birth control pills or a new heart and on some items I will agree but you have no ‘right’ to demand ANYONE else pay for it. You don’t even have the right to expect that someone who could afford to pay the total costs, do it out of the kindness of their heart.

      You can believe in any medical benefit you care to but you have no right to demand I or anyone else pay for anyone in your family’s need for it. It is in the world’s best interest that we teach our children that you cannot take something from someone else simply because you need it. To earn what you need by the sweat of your brow and if you cannot affort it, then you may ask for help but you should never ever expect or demand it. America has raised several generations of people who have a false sense of entitlement. People who believe they deserve fellow American’s pay checks, more than they and their families do. It is the height of selfish arrogance.

      • ATrueAmerican

        iprazhm, I respect your opinion but IMHO your anger is misplaced. The government you so despise is already taking money from you to fund the emergency rooms in the hospitals that those in need are forced to go to because of the out of control and greedy insurance companies. The same logic you lean on here is the what the “f-em” crowd used when social security was first introduced. I’m no socialist, but I do believe in humanity. If I came upon someone who was injured on the street I would help them, not let them die on the side of the road. Our country is greatest when ALL of us are allowed to prosper and be in good health, not just the few, The selfish arrogance you speak of is only found in the greedy corporations whose income has escalted to incredible heights in the past twenty years while those who work at those corporations have flatlined. Sorry, Mr. Potter, but the country was founded on the backs of the workers. To deny them basics like healthcare is to deny what this country was built on. You dismiss those in need as lazy and wanting to suck on the teet of hard working people. Yes there are a few of those, but a very small percentage. There are millions who work hard everyday, sometimes two jobs, but still come up short and/or are ruined with one major health problem. They don’t want YOU to pay for anything, they just want a fair chance at getting affordable healthcare. Obamacare is a concept that is long overdue. My hope is that someday you will benefit from it, or perhaps someone in your family who is unfortante enough to have a pre-existing condition. You will then realize why a national healthcare program is not only needed, but the right thing to do. It is now the law of the land. Thankfully.

        • iprazhm

          I’m not angry, just motivated by the injustice of a government that over taxes it’s citizenry.

          Taxes have gone beyond their origin of war recovery, road repair and military upkeep.

          A civilized society among the greatest this world has ever witnessed was framed in the Constitution of the United States.

          It wasn’t built on income redistribution but the mandates of our heavenly father. We are taught to love our neighbor and give help when we can. We are taught that charity comes from the heart, not from government dictate. We are taught to work for what we need and pray for Him to assist us and others when the burden is beyond our means of relieving. No where does God tolerate the taking by force from one to give to another. No where does God tell us that the begger or the theif with his hand out, will determine what we can afford to give.

          God teaches us humility backed with faith. He does not teach us that we are owed a living, an education, food or housing. No where in the bible or the constitution does it say that healthcare is a ‘right’.

          “I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

          – Benjamin Franklin

          ” The government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.”

          – James Madison, speech in the House of Representatives, January 10, 1794

          “I cannot find any authority in the Constitution for public charity. [To approve the measure] would be contrary to the letter and spirit of the Constitution and subversive to the whole theory upon which the Union of these States is founded.”

          – President Franklin Pierce’s 1854 veto of a measure to help the mentally ill.

          “The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale.” –Thomas Jefferson

          “Repeal that [welfare] law, and … industry will increase, and with it plenty among the lower people; their circumstances will mend, and more will be done for their happiness by inuring them to provide for themselves, than could be done by dividing all your estates among them.” –Benjamin Franklin

          “A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.” George Bernard Shaw

          • A True American

            Again, I appreciate your civil tone and although we disagree on many things I think we can agree that a discussion can be civil.

            Your quotes are selective and I could find many quotations from great individuals that back up the need to help our neighbors in need. This response will probably be my last because we have polar opposite thinking when it comes to religion, politics, and the size of government. The founding fathers lived in a much different time. Radical as they were, they could never imagine the society we live in today and the population, commerce, diversity and needs of our nation in 2013. These were men who owned slaves and bought and sold them as product. Those were the times, but appalling just the same.

            So, too, we differ on religion. I was brought up in a traditional faith based family and have studied scripture and not only the Christian faith, but many others as well. However, I don’t believe there is (as George Carlin so brilliantly put it) “an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do”. I believe in myself. I also believe in doing what I can to help others. I don’t believe the majority of poor people in this country are lazy or want to be poor. I believe that even though all people are created equal, they do not get equal treatment or opportunities. I believe that people shouldn’t lose their homes just because they get an illness. I believe that there is no “plan” from the invisible man in the sky that causes people to get those illnesses. I believe that if there really is some kind of deity looking over us it is not a judgemental, you’ll burn in hell if you don’t do what I tell you, sinners in the hands of an angry God, kind of diety.

            Okay, I don’t want to make this a novella. Just wanted to take a few minutes to respond because you took your valuable time to respond to me. We will have to agree to disagree when it comes to these issues.
            However, I thank you for your time and words. And sincerely wish you nothing but the best in life.
            ATA

          • iprazhm

            Of course my quotes are selective! I selected those relative to our discussion. I wouldn’t select a quote concerning well water legislation or spitting on the sidewalk.

            My point was to address your misinformed statement that, “To deny them basics like healthcare is to deny what this country was built on.”. I clearly rebuked that by showing welfare was indeed not what this country was built on.

            Your statement, “Sorry, Mr. Potter, but the country was founded on the backs of the workers. To deny them basics like healthcare is to deny what this country was built on.”

            The question for you is, ‘Who’ is denying workers healthcare? You seem to think it is the gov, but our Constitution no where says healthcare is a basic right. Our founding fathers clearly understood and voiced that welfare is no job of the government.

            There is only one entity left, private citizens. Since you alone, and others like you believe you cannot compel other citizens to pay for your medical proceedures and drugs, you enlist the aide of a tyrannical government by forfeiting the rights and freedom of all.

            This leaves myself and the majority of Americans to ask, ‘what is next on the socialist agenda?’. What happens when you need a heart of a kidney, will you proclaim that as a basic healthcare ‘right’ and insist not just our money but our organs are yours to plunder also? Clearly the answer is yes as your greed and false sense of entitlement fostered by liberals who have overthrown our Constitituion, has no limits, no bounds and no remorse.

          • Simz

            You’re insane but funny.

  • iprazhm

    This socialist tyranny calling itself ‘the government’ has no boundarys. It has mandated the murder and useage of body parts of unwanted children, a basic form of ‘healthcare’, and is forcing even those whose
    religious beliefs forbid such actions, to fund it.
    The next logical progression in this barbarous decline into insanity is to dictate the death and mutilation of ‘selected’ adults for their much desired body parts. All in the name of healthcare.